Author Topic: Daffy  (Read 1227 times)

Offline AmyAmy

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Re: Daffy
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 01:21:11 PM »
I've got nothing against Daffy, but this might be overhyping him a bit now...

I don't really agree that Daffy did a lot that was innovative. Some might not have seen those things before, but there are a tremendous number of stories out there, and an insane number of them were written before 2000, or even the mid nineties. There is very little new under the sun. To suggest he was "one of the first to do person2object" is a big claim. I don't think he was the first, even on the Plaza, though I imagine Gromet would be the one to ask about that.

I don't mean to put him down, simply not to put him up on a pedestal.

He wrote a lot of stories, yes I agree, but (I suspect) his entire body of work had a word count less than a single one of Rbbral's stories.

Anyone who wants to, please feel free to measure this, for all it would prove. Number of stories, quality of stories, innovation... Some will miss him more than others, that is for sure. He definitely has his fans.

Daffy has gone from the Plaza, for whatever reasons he has, but it's up to him. It's a decision he made. If he wants to return, he can.
If he wants to come back with some awesome stories that make us rethink everything we ever thought we knew about kinks, he can.

What I have noticed is that the trash enthusiasts are an active bunch on the forums. Does that mean that good trash stories are still appearing here? I suspect it may.

Offline PolytheneWrappedMe

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Re: Daffy
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 04:05:13 PM »
This is not a competition, Amy.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even if they differ from your own.

You are entitled to yours, as I am to mine.

Let's treat each other with respect, please.



Offline Lobo De la Sombra

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Re: Daffy
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2017, 06:04:57 AM »
Personally, I have no interest in trashcan stories.  Not that I'm against the concept, I simply have no interest there.  That being said, I also have nothing against Daffy.  In fact, I have about five and a half pages of PM's from him, stretching from December of 2015 for about a year, and probably at least that many messages to him.  I wasn't happy when he left, but that was his choice.  In the future, whether he decides to come back or to stay away, that will also be his choice.  From our private talks, he knows my opinion of him, so I won't say anything about that here.  What I will say is, if he does decide to come back, there will be a place for him, just as there is a place here for anyone who enjoys any of our varied areas of interest.  Never forget, people, that you are all entitled to voice your thoughts and opinions, so long as you do it in a way that respects the rules of this forum.  At the same time, never forget that there are real, live people on the other side of your screen, with thoughts, opinions and feelings of their own.  Please try to respect them, just as you would want them to respect yours.
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Offline AmyAmy

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Re: Daffy
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2017, 02:45:59 PM »
PolytheneWrappedMe, I'm so sorry.

I definitely didn't mean to be disrespectful. I certainly didn't mean to give the impression I have anything against you, or Daffy, or his stories.
Honestly, I didn't think I'd done those things, but now I'm second guessing myself.

Clearly, I must have upset you, and I feel awful about it.


I don't mean to come across negative. So if it seemed a bit troubling, just tell me honestly what I did wrong, so I can try and be better in the future. There's no need to skirt around it, if you need to reprimand me, or tell me I've gone too far, or said something confronting, or that you think I'm an opinionated idiot, there's no need at all to trouble everyone on the forum with it, you can always PM me.


Of course it's not a matter of opinion that shrinking, growth, and person to object are devices that have been in stories for hundreds of years, if not thousands.


PolytheneWrappedMe, I guess if Daffy was the one who introduced you to those ideas, he'll always have a special place in your heart as a writer. And maybe it was a bit harsh of me to suggest you were putting him on a pedestal. Likely, you were simply trying to raise awareness of his work so that others can enjoy it the way you have. But that's just a guess, maybe I'm way off?

Well either way, I regret the pedestal comment. I just wanted to say that I like Daffy, while keeping it in perspective.


I agree, it is only opinion that the number of stories a person has written has no special bearing on anything. It doesn't speak to how powerful they are, or the impact they have on others, which I think are the things that matter. Emily Bronte only published one book, but it made quite an impact.


As I said, Daffy certainly has his fans, but let's be optimistic about this, there are lots more stories appearing on the Plaza, and you never know when there will be one as good, or even better, than those Daffy stories that have gone away. And who knows? Maybe those Daffy stories may return one day. Or not. But if they don't, you still got to read them, and love them. You'll always have them with you, in a way.

And if they're not destined to return here, you could always ask him to repost them somewhere else.

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Re: Daffy
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2017, 05:42:15 PM »
Thank you Lobo for your words of support.

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Re: Daffy
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2017, 05:54:15 PM »
Thank you Amy for saying sorry.

It has not tarnished your image, on the contrary, being kind enough to say sorry, says much about your kind and decent character.

I did not claim Daffy was the first to write person2object transformation stories here. I said "one of the first" (and that is on the Plaza, not elsewhere).  I said "one of the first" hoping not to offend, in case I missed the story that was actually the first. Up to then, the Transformation section seemed as though it was (almost ?) exclusively about sex change: m2f, and f2m. The idea of becoming an object appealed to me, as I view objectification as the most extreme submissive act. A slave can disobey, an object has no choice.

Story length is subjective. I know readers who have shorter attention spans and like stories to get to the point, and other readers who prefer a longer build up. Short or long stories are neither good or bad, just cater for different tastes and needs.

Certainly in the Trashcan world he introduced lots of new stuff. But he wrote in several genres. He also mixed genres as his stories often contained elements from different sections.

No harm done.